Landen Stz
map-marker Albuquerque, New Mexico

Vensure International llc... Scam?

My husband and i came across the shoemoney system and decided to try it at the price of $150.00 a few days later we received a phone call saying we see you have purchased the shoemoney system and would you like to go further with this business, you might qualify to be sponsored by our company and make us a success story... we had 2 interviews and got excepted an put a down payment of $499.00 on a finance loan of $4200.00 and after interest $5000.00 and this happened on april 6 2011 but they are saying we signed it the the 5th but the money wasnt tooken out until the 7th 2 days later we wanted to back out of the program because we thought it was the shoemoney system when it was only dealing with ebay only to find out we had 3 days to get a refund and got the run around from everyone we have talked to we sent emails on the 8th the said were sent on the 9th and a letter sent on the 11th that we over nighted but being where the place is locaed takes 2 days we have been told that we can not back out and have to continue even tho we have not used any of their services we are unsure of what to do because of the run around we have received we can not dispute it with our bank and have canceled our card we are hoping that the letter we mailed will get us out of this deal if you have any information for us it would be greatly appreciated the address if it helps is vensure international 770 E main ste 332 Lehi, UT 84043
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Guest

I signed up with venture in decemeber 2011 and I paid 500 at first, just after one talk with coach i realized they are just there to steal money I called them next day asked for refund they said we can not refund the time is gone. So after that the coaching just called me like 5-10 minutes and did not say any thing helpful so i didnot talk to him any more basically i did not use the service.

Now I got a bill from venture that I have to pay 3000$ for them. I got shocked and this letter was from a debt collector. They are asking me to pay 3000$. I do not know what to do.

I want to talk with a lawyer and ask what to do.

They give me few days to pay this amount. please advice

Guest

What happened to all the complaints before July 2011, I posted in May and Jun 2011 and neither of them are here

Guest

I have personally scammed hundreds of people into schemes JUST like this one over the last few years. I did not work for Vensure, but I know the industry. In fact, in the sales world, that particular corner of the market is simply dubbed "the industry" since salesmen have BY FAR the most money making potential out of just about any other sales industry out there. The fulfillment is terrible. We hire these twenty year old kids to be your "mentor" or your "coach" or whatever other fancy name we can make up, and then we laugh as suckers hand over their credit cards to the tune of $1,500 to $15,000. We use all kinds of reverse psychology tricks to get people interested too. "We're a very selective program. Anyone who wants to qualify for it has to go through an extensive interview process, first with me and then with my manager if you pass the initial questions" which are just questions about much "OPM" you have. What's that? "Other People's Money" i.e CREDIT CARDS. We actually get people to give us exactly how much credit they have available, and then, wouldn't you know it, we pitch them a package for just under that exact amount ("Oh, we'll put you on our fast start program for an October discount of $18,000!")

Anyway, I was raking in the cash so for a while I just didn't care. I had recently returned home from a trip to Europe to find that a friend I loaned my car to hadn't made a payment in 3 months and the repo man was after it, and three of my credit cards had been charged off due to non-payment. All in all I was about $50,000 in debt so when I started bringing in between $8,000 and $9,000 every month I didn't let my conscience get the best of me. I was the top salesman in my office (tied with two others) and we were making a killing.

Well... it just wore off, to be honest (for once). I had paid off all my debt (save the student loans, which are still not accruing interest) and had saved almost $30,000 and I guess without that desperation clouding my moral judgment, I just couldn't do it anymore. I knew I wouldn't sell this junk to a family member, and shouldn't I think of the whole human race as my family? Isn't that the position a religious person is supposed to take? I counted my cash, told my girlfriend it would be okay, held my breath and walked away.

Best decision ever. Look, people. This industry is selling pie in the sky and nothing else. Don't be reeled in. And for those of you still making money taking advantage of your brothers and sisters out there... you know better. Listen to that voice that says there is a better way. It all comes back around; we can't avoid that in this life (or the next), so don't lie to take advantage of another's good faith. The entire American banking system is already doing enough of that for the lot of us; don't throw your hat in with them.

Guest

WOW!!!!!, Just wander, what if ALL these people got their money back....... would Vensure go under?

lovetogeteven@***.com

Guest

REgardless of how many people Vensure has "helped" their prices are ridiculously high, they do not give you all the information straight forward and from the beginning, and they do not abide by more than couple of laws regarding "deceptive trade ptractices". Dan, My experience was the same as yours, unfortunately, I paid close to or more than $15,000 to Vensure and other companies before I started to realize all this.

Ebay will not create revenue. I t will get you $20, dropshipping is not the way to make money and they will try to charge you so that you by website building services so you end up having to pay more money towards buying items to see if they sell?!? Vensure has kep SO much information from me it is not even funny. I am now trying to negotiate a artial refund (keywords willing to negotiate) and they do not want to resolve this with me via e-mail even if I have no acces to my phone any longer.

Those of you who want to fight back write me at scamcomplaints@***.com.

I am in touch with three people who are wanting to do something about this. I have something planned, nationwide that may help us get our money back.

Guest

My experience with Vensure International LLC has been a very pleasant one. I started out with ebay and that has been good but once my website was up and on google I started seeing consistent sales and my affiliate links started bringing in the money.

It is great.

So don't give up.

The idea of making money on the internet is exciting, but not nearly as exciting as seeing the sales and money pouring in with little effort. It is not magic, it takes effort but then the payoff is great.

Dan Fwc

Yes, send me info on Vensure International,

I am going to see a lawyer about my situation.

Dan Frykman

Guest

I paid the $50 at first and was almost guaranteed that it was a "risk free" trial and the next day Thomas Deshriver called me and schemed me into paying $1000 to get it started and then a somewhat lengthy monthly payment. It says in the contract that you have 3 days to get your money back, I called on the second day, left voice messages on 4 different machines to 4 different people.

Called the 3rd day, left 4 messages, got nothing. 4th day same thing. 5th day finally got a hold of Thomas with him saying "my hands are tied, you must mail a letter within the first 3 days then we will consider." I mailed the letter anyways on the 5th day, still didn't budge, said his hands were tied. So after a month, duvera went into my account and took the monthly fee out, I got pissed off and talked to Thomas, said his hands were tied and just do the program.

Changed my bank account, was harrassed by coaches every day to do their stuff. Now Duvera is leaving me e-mails saying they will take "appropriate action" if I do not pay within 7 days.

This is the second e-mail I've gotten from them and the first one was 10 days ago. Does anyone think I could either A) go to jail or B) get my credit completely shattered because of this?

Guest

I am having the same issue. I "invested" close to 8000 dls., then was referred to other partner companies who I thought would help my business, invested another 10000 dls and had my credit maxed out.

At the beginning, vensure makes it seem as if they want you to be successful, but refer you to other companies so you can buy their services. I am to the point, where I dont have enough money to keep going. There is no way I can afford the monthly payments on my credit cards. The amount of time you really have to invest if a lot more than what they tell you to begin with.

If you want to start a business. DON'T USE VENSURE!

Guest

I also got started with Vensure in Febuary of this year. Like most of you I felt it wasn't for me in the begining.

Did not make anything more than maybe 150-200 bucks UNTIL MAY! My marketing on My website took off, my affliate links are all working just like coach said they would. On July 22nd I made 162.00 dollars,...for doing nothing. All the set up over the last few months paid off.

If you are unsure like I was, I urge you to stick with the training,...it is afterall a 6 month course.

Their customer service is average but the results are great. Stick with it folks, it will work out good if you follow the instructions.

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sbarriea
map-marker Paso Robles, California

This company is a scam

This company is a complete scam. The rope you in by signing you up for a membership for $47, then without your knowledge (they say its burried in the fine print) bill your card for an additional $99.95. This is just the beginning. They tell you if you want greater earning potential you must go through 2 interview processes. The first of which they ask the amount of available credit on your cards - this is what they use to determine how much you must pay up front. In our case, they wanted $13,000 to join the program. After they have "qualified" you (basically meaning you have available credit on a card) the second interview takes place - in our case by Jackson Hill (801) 770-****. During this "interview" they outline the benefits of their program (many of which were very dubious), but never get into specifics about their services or what you're buying. They expect payment while you're on the phone ($13,000 investment based on a 1 hour phone call!!) When we asked to see the contract we were told it would be sent only after they received payment. We told him this was unacceptable in that we didn't even know what we were buying. After several minutes of arguing he agreed to send a blank contract (their name wasn't even on the contract) via email for us to review while still on the phone! We informed him that we would need time to review and discuss it at which point Jackson went into his high pressure (used car) sales tactics and refused to accept our answer. The conversation degraded from there at which point we hung up on him - he called back 3 times within 10 minutes. The last time he told us he would "throw our profile in the trash where it belonged." DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO THIS COMPANY.
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We signed up for the same programme,Paid $49 but was charged $99,they ask us how many credit cards we have and balance and the limits,ididnt gave them the right amount,they told us to pay up front $3500,we said,no money,then they asked for $1000 upfront,we told him we need time to decide,hegot irritated start raising his voice,Did some reserch, its a scam, keep away

Anonymous
map-marker Colorado Springs, Colorado

Vensure International

Impossible to cancel. My son ordered this so-called business coaching service that realy has nothing to offer that you can't find for free through a google search. Scam from the beginning. They say you can cancel but just try. They use a billing company out of California to make it more difficult to find them.You cannot talk with anyone that can cancel your service subscription. They will not return calls. Bill keeps growing at astronomical interest rate. Received no service. Then they turn you over to collections. Please contact Utah State Atorney General and complain if you have had similar experience. Here are their numbers Vensure 855-495-**** fax 801 857-****. They are located Lehi UT. Help put them out of business
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Contacting the Utah AG will do no good; it is your word against Vensure's, and the Utah Consumer Protection Agency does not live up to its name. They must have blinders on, because someone in Utah doesn't recognize that a business having 39 complaints filed against them in 12 months and page after page of complaints on the internet must be doing something to *** off so many people.

Guest

need help? contact me: lovetogeteven@***.com

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Dan Fwc
map-marker Salt Lake City, Utah

Vensure International, Lehi, Utah

Vensure International representative Tyler, said don't worry about the $9,300 we withdrew from your cards. When you get corporate credit, we will transfer that debt to a business corporate credit card or business line of credit. Just do what we say and trade on Ebay. That is your business. And Vensure never told me one important fact that would make their prediction work. To establish and build corporate credit you have to have strong income. They took enough money from me so that I could not build a strong income. So now I am broke from the bills.
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Guest

8) lets see what we can do together : lovetogeteven@***.com

Guest

REgardless of how many people Vensure has "helped" their prices are ridiculously high, they do not give you all the information straight forward and from the beginning, and they do not abide by more than couple of laws regarding "deceptive trade ptractices". Dan, My experience was the same as yours, unfortunately, I paid close to or more than $15,000 to Vensure and other companies before I started to realize all this.

Ebay will not create revenue. I t will get you $20, dropshipping is not the way to make money and they will try to charge you so that you by website building services so you end up having to pay more money towards buying items to see if they sell?!?

Vensure has kep SO much information from me it is not even funny. I am now trying to negotiate a artial refund (keywords willing to negotiate) and they do not want to resolve this with me via e-mail even if I have no acces to my phone any longer. Those of you who want to fight back write me at scamcomplaints@***.com.

I am in touch with three people who are wanting to do something about this. I have something planned, nationwide that may help us get our money back.

James P Jru

Carmen

What do you consider strong income? Do you truthfully believe you got your $10,000+ worth?

You can get the same ebay course online for $37, probably less, learn just as much.

Ebay also has a course that gives you as much if not more information. This company offers nothing that can't be obtained for free or for very little online.

Guest

Hey Dan. Vensure International's program has really helped me build a strong income.

Ebay is a quick way to start making some money, but that is not the final goal. A website, selling products and marketing is where the cash really comes from. I have been very happy. They really are there to help you accomplish your goals.

No, they won't do it all for you, but they give you clear directions. It seems to me that the thing that made you broke is what will bring you great prosperity!

Best of luck!

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Bettina F Tvx
map-marker Miami, Florida

Vensure International made me raw!

Any one interested in joining me in a class action lawsuit for consumer fraud can contact me at Ramco2829@***.com. I too got taken by Vensure International LLC. With a loss of 6ooo.oo for a weekly lesson on Ebay. I was contacted by their 'affiliates' on LLC preparation and assisting me in obtaining an eic number. I too requested my money back, at the least, a good portion of the monies and basically got laughed at. This is a blatant consumer fraud case and these people need to be held accountable. It's time to fight back people. I have contacted a class action attorney and I am looking for others who want to get their money back. Personally naming Derrick Merrill, Phil Gannucia, Skylar Jarman and Richard Nemrow.
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The two of you sound so confused. lovetogeteven@***.com

Guest

Vensure Intl. I wanna join the suit Got their registered mail to them in time.

They get voice mails evey morning. Matt Peterson, Heather Magill, Skylar Jarman.

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Anonymous
map-marker Pittsburg, Kansas

Vensure Rip Off What happened to the previous complaints

I had a complaint on here from May, 2011, the complaint I left has dissapeared. What happened to all the complaints that were on here before 2011. There were hundreds of them. It's like someone erased all the old complaints to make Vensure not look so bad. On the previous complaints people were taken for thousands of dollars and that is not as a group that was as individuals. If they have taken thousands from others, where is their conscience. Please be very careful dealing with these people they can sock it to you for thousands. They did it me. Still have no refund.
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virginia c Irw
map-marker Salisbury, Maryland

Vensure international llc

this company claims to have personal coaches and an extensive library to teach some poor unsuspecting soul(like me) to learn eeverything about making loads of $$$ on an internet home business--and all this for only $5,500,which includes the privilege of being "screened" by the boss. I have the website, but no coach and no communication to connect with me for an appointment( 5 weeks of half hour phone coaching) I am a retiree who needs to work to make ends meet--I was tatally scammed, and in my world, $5000+ extra credit card debt is no joke
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I signed up for Vensures scheme too. I have been in the program about 2 weeks and called them to cancel.

I was told I could not cancel due to the contract I had signed and was liable for 3000.00. If I did not pay, I would be sent to their collection agency and my credit would go down the drain. They did say their was an option...I could send them 500.00 in the next 30 days to null the contract. They already took 399.00 from my bank account.

After doing some research online, there are several agencies to report them to: National Fraud Information Center, National Consumers League, Cybercops, National Consumer Complaint Center, Internet Fraud Complaint Center (FBI and White Collar Crime), Federal Trade Commission, Securities and Exchange Commission. Suggestions have been to report them to your state attorney general and Utah state attorney general. You can also file with Utah division of consumer protection. Always file with BBB.

I am trying to avoid my credit being damaged. I am calling my bank to let them know and cancel my debit card so they can't take anymore money from my account.

As with some people, I am unemployed and thought this could help. I didn't realize they wanted to take thousands of dollars from me knowing I had little income.

Guest

Vensure international is associated with daesfinacial, yourentity, strategic tax systems to name a few names, everyone needs to file a complaint with the attorney general in the state the company claimed to be from, in Utah file with the Utah Division of consumer protection, lets get these guys, plus aspire marketing, onlineprofitmasterssytems, thecoachingdepartment.com. they are all scammers, look at all the complaints on each of them. :(

Guest

Vensure international is associated with daesfinacial, yourentity, strategic tax systems to name a few names, everyone needs to file a complaint with the attorney general in the state the company claimed to be from, in Utah file with the Utah Division of consumer protection, lets get these guys, plus aspire marketing, onlineprofitmasterssytems, thecoachingdepartment.com. they are all scammers, look at all the complaints on each of them. :(

Guest

i bought into this program to. they charge a lot of money and say you will make money if you are committed.

i put in a lot of time and effort and it has been over 2 months and still i have not made one sale. now they are charging an extra 39.95 a month apart from their coaching fee for my website when i was never told that they were going to do this.

they dont stand behind their word and scam hopeful people like me. plus they have very poor customer service

Guest

Suspicious

taken b

I was taken by these people, let's get our complaints together, list down the people that you have been speaking too from Vensure and other partner companies and go after them. Please e-mail me at scamcomplaints@***.com

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Please e-mail me at scamcomplaints@***.com and lets gather information to ge our refunds or do what we can to stop these people. They took 15,000 from me, vensure and other "partner" companies. those pigs deserve to be in jail

Guest

If you have any complaints for Vensure international, Daeus Financial, Your Entity Solutions, Strategic Tax SErvices and Gogodropship, e-mail me at scamcomplaints@***.com

I created this e-mail address so we can gather information and fight back. You are not alone. They have taken a bunch of us!!

Guest

Wanna join in a class action law suit for consumer fraud against Vensure International? Contact me

Guest

I signed up with vensure for almost 7k. I've have been happy with the service.

While the mentors help motivate and guide you it really rests on your effort.

As for me I've got a website and am selling product daily. That's me.

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Bettina F Tvx
map-marker Miami, Florida

Vensure International llc

Is Vensure International LLC a scam? I am sure Vensure International LLC has helped many people in the community learn how to start a business of their own, and while a home business is not necessarily for everyone, I am quite sure that Vensure International LLC has not personally tried to scam anyone. I am pleased that if Vensure International LLC and I had any issues, all issues have been resolved and I am personally very pleased with the outcome. The aforementioned Mr. Merrill, Mr Gannucia, Mr Jarman and Mr Nemrow are not bad people and should not be held accountable for the actions of others. Good Luck to all.
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The problem is that if you are not satisfied and want to cancel, you can not and are held accountable for thousands of dollars, even though you are not using their "educational" services. What gets me is that at any real educational institute, there is a policy to cancel and receive your money back.

So to krissty45, for us lazy people, who decide that within a few weeks, this is not for us, we still have to pay thousands of dollars to this company for services that we will never use? that is robbery!

Guest

I have to agree,...making money online isn't for everyone, but I am doing it so it isn't impossible,...I could not have done it without Vensure,....I am starting a class action lawsuit against lazy people who can't make money even when they are given a great system and good people to help them ;)

Guest

Which is your real belief at this moment? Are they scammers for which you wish to file a class action lawsuit, or are they decent guys who have now satisfied you?

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Anonymous
map-marker Austin, Texas

I canceled membership per instructions and can't get money back

I signed up with Vensure International and the was offered a job, I called the very next business day to cancel and was told to send it in writing, which I did. Now I can't get a hold of anyone from the company and can't get the charges reversed. I have called several numbers and left several messages with my contact information but as of yet have not heard back from anyone. I am also trying to work with my credit card company Barclaycard, but they have not been helpful yet either. Do not let these people do this to you!
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These people are true scam artists with boiler room operations. I have lodged a complaint with the FTC as my credit card company is siding with them and is rebilling me after 5 months of back and forth communication.

Guest

two heads are better than one! lovetogeteven@***.com

Guest

What these people do is called deceptive trade practice. Charging ridiculous amounts of money (for me, over $1000 per phone call or weekly contact)is, in fact, illegal.

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Scott C Nse
map-marker Boise, Idaho

Vensure international llc *** artists

My wife and I were taken for over $10,000.00. Austin Bawden promised us that if we didn't make that amount in three months he would give us our money back. After three months of working with there people and spending money on more memberships, we asked for our money back as per mr Bawdens quarantee. They gave us the run around and we've never been able to get our money back. I've spent countless hours on the phone trying to get through to these people how crooked there system is and they are all so blind. Stay away from these people.
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lovetogeteven@***.com

Maybe we can help....

Guest

I signed up with vensure for almost 7k. I never saw a refund guarantee as you describe it in my contract I've signed.

Either way I have been happy with the service, I've got a website and am selling product daily. That me.

Harvey G Wfy

Lets help each other get our money back. reply asap. savegreenunlimted@***.com

these people are manipulating crooks.

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Anonymous
map-marker Lilburn, Georgia

Am trying to get out of contract

I had a long conversation with the screening coach today, who was very nice, and electronically signed an agreeement for $8K for their services and coaching. After reading about the company, I decided to cancel my purchase, according to the contract agreement stipulations. I also called my credit card company to dispute the charge. I am sending my cancellation "request" certified, next day mail, signature required correspondence within the allowed 3 day limit. NOTE: The address to send cancellation is DIFFERENT on their purchase agreement and coaching agreement. I found that odd, so I sent to both addresses. You can't cancel via email or phone. I will re-post the outcome on my cancellation request. I should have done my research BEFORE I signed anything. Buyer beware. I hope Vensure does right by me.
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stop trying and accomplish it "anonymous" lovetogeteven@***.com

barbara s Xjg
map-marker Downingtown, Pennsylvania

They take your money and give you nothing

I was looking for a way to make a little extra money from home. Vensure told me it was easy to get started and I would be making money in no time. After my first $9,000.00 dollars and two weeks of phone coaching, they wanted $3,000.00 dollars more then $2,000.00 more. A tax coach and a business plan. Money and more Money is all they wanted. Bottom line this is a scam big time. I was a few months off yet to getting any money back on a web site they would charge me again.
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Guest

Now THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY!!!!!

lovetogeteven@***.com

Guest

I signed up with vensure for almost 7k. I got the same phone call but I declined those services.

Otherwise I've have been happy with the service. While the mentors help motivate and guide you it really rests on your effort.

As for me I've got a website and am selling product daily. That's me.

Harvey G Wfy

If you have set up a business I will be glad to collaborate to you a letter to fight this with your credit card company's to try to get a refund. If you will help me do the same. I need your help as soon as possible.

Guest

Hey all. I signed up with Vensure International, and then decided it wasn't for me.

I followed the terms for cancellation and after a few days of processing and I got a full refund. I had a good customer service experience and everything turned out just fine.

Guest

Hey all. I signed up with Vensure International, and then decided it wasn't for me.

I followed the terms for cancellation and after a few days of processing and I got a full refund. I had a good customer service experience and everything turned out just fine.

Guest

I've had a positive experience with Vensure International. I also got phone calls offering the additional tax and business plan services but I declined.

I got the mentoring and support just as I was told I would.

I started selling immediately with ebay, to make money right away while i set up my website up. That's my experience

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