Vensure International llc... Scam?

I signed up with venture in decemeber 2011 and I paid 500 at first, just after one talk with coach i realized they are just there to steal money I called them next day asked for refund they said we can not refund the time is gone. So after that the coaching just called me like 5-10 minutes and did not say any thing helpful so i didnot talk to him any more basically i did not use the service. Now I got a bill from venture that I have to pay 3000$ for them. I got shocked and this letter was from a debt collector. They are asking me to pay 3000$. I do not know what to do. I want to talk with a lawyer and ask what to do. They give me few days to pay this amount. please advice

What happened to all the complaints before July 2011, I posted in May and Jun 2011 and neither of them are here

I have personally scammed hundreds of people into schemes JUST like this one over the last few years. I did not work for Vensure, but I know the industry. In fact, in the sales world, that particular corner of the market is simply dubbed "the industry" since salesmen have BY FAR the most money making potential out of just about any other sales industry out there. The fulfillment is terrible. We hire these twenty year old kids to be your "mentor" or your "coach" or whatever other fancy name we can make up, and then we laugh as suckers hand over their credit cards to the tune of $1,500 to $15,000. We use all kinds of reverse psychology tricks to get people interested too. "We're a very selective program. Anyone who wants to qualify for it has to go through an extensive interview process, first with me and then with my manager if you pass the initial questions" which are just questions about much "OPM" you have. What's that? "Other People's Money" i.e CREDIT CARDS. We actually get people to give us exactly how much credit they have available, and then, wouldn't you know it, we pitch them a package for just under that exact amount ("Oh, we'll put you on our fast start program for an October discount of $18,000!")  

 

Anyway, I was raking in the cash so for a while I just didn't care. I had recently returned home from a trip to Europe to find that a friend I loaned my car to hadn't made a payment in 3 months and the repo man was after it, and three of my credit cards had been charged off due to non-payment. All in all I was about $50,000 in debt so when I started bringing in between $8,000 and $9,000 every month I didn't let my conscience get the best of me. I was the top salesman in my office (tied with two others) and we were making a killing.  

 

Well... it just wore off, to be honest (for once). I had paid off all my debt (save the student loans, which are still not accruing interest) and had saved almost $30,000 and I guess without that desperation clouding my moral judgment, I just couldn't do it anymore. I knew I wouldn't sell this junk to a family member, and shouldn't I think of the whole human race as my family? Isn't that the position a religious person is supposed to take? I counted my cash, told my girlfriend it would be okay, held my breath and walked away.  

 

Best decision ever. Look, people. This industry is selling pie in the sky and nothing else. Don't be reeled in. And for those of you still making money taking advantage of your brothers and sisters out there... you know better. Listen to that voice that says there is a better way. It all comes back around; we can't avoid that in this life (or the next), so don't lie to take advantage of another's good faith. The entire American banking system is already doing enough of that for the lot of us; don't throw your hat in with them.

WOW!!!!!, Just wander, what if ALL these people got their money back....... would Vensure go under?  

REgardless of how many people Vensure has "helped" their prices are ridiculously high, they do not give you all the information straight forward and from the beginning, and they do not abide by more than couple of laws regarding "deceptive trade ptractices". Dan, My experience was the same as yours, unfortunately, I paid close to or more than $15,000 to Vensure and other companies before I started to realize all this. Ebay will not create revenue. I t will get you $20, dropshipping is not the way to make money and they will try to charge you so that you by website building services so you end up having to pay more money towards buying items to see if they sell?!?  

 

Vensure has kep SO much information from me it is not even funny. I am now trying to negotiate a artial refund (keywords willing to negotiate) and they do not want to resolve this with me via e-mail even if I have no acces to my phone any longer. Those of you who want to fight back write me at I am in touch with three people who are wanting to do something about this. I have something planned, nationwide that may help us get our money back.

My experience with Vensure International LLC has been a very pleasant one. I started out with ebay and that has been good but once my website was up and on google I started seeing consistent sales and my affiliate links started bringing in the money. It is great.  

So don't give up. The idea of making money on the internet is exciting, but not nearly as exciting as seeing the sales and money pouring in with little effort. It is not magic, it takes effort but then the payoff is great.

Yes, send me info on Vensure International, 

I am going to see a lawyer about my situation.  

 

Dan Frykman

I paid the $50 at first and was almost guaranteed that it was a "risk free" trial and the next day Thomas Deshriver called me and schemed me into paying $1000 to get it started and then a somewhat lengthy monthly payment. It says in the contract that you have 3 days to get your money back, I called on the second day, left voice messages on 4 different machines to 4 different people. Called the 3rd day, left 4 messages, got nothing. 4th day same thing. 5th day finally got a hold of Thomas with him saying "my hands are tied, you must mail a letter within the first 3 days then we will consider." I mailed the letter anyways on the 5th day, still didn't budge, said his hands were tied. So after a month, duvera went into my account and took the monthly fee out, I got pissed off and talked to Thomas, said his hands were tied and just do the program. Changed my bank account, was harrassed by coaches every day to do their stuff. Now Duvera is leaving me e-mails saying they will take "appropriate action" if I do not pay within 7 days. This is the second e-mail I've gotten from them and the first one was 10 days ago. Does anyone think I could either A) go to jail or B) get my credit completely shattered because of this?

I am having the same issue. I "invested" close to 8000 dls., then was referred to other partner companies who I thought would help my business, invested another 10000 dls and had my credit maxed out. At the beginning, vensure makes it seem as if they want you to be successful, but refer you to other companies so you can buy their services. I am to the point, where I dont have enough money to keep going. There is no way I can afford the monthly payments on my credit cards. The amount of time you really have to invest if a lot more than what they tell you to begin with. If you want to start a business. DON'T USE VENSURE!

I also got started with Vensure in Febuary of this year. Like most of you I felt it wasn't for me in the begining. Did not make anything more than maybe 150-200 bucks UNTIL MAY! My marketing on My website took off, my affliate links are all working just like coach said they would. On July 22nd I made 162.00 dollars,...for doing nothing. All the set up over the last few months paid off. If you are unsure like I was, I urge you to stick with the training,...it is afterall a 6 month course. Their customer service is average but the results are great. Stick with it folks, it will work out good if you follow the instructions.